Not in the least impressed with these offerings. How about a supermarket in Barnegat or doing something to transform the A&P building into a viable business? Isn't it time to offer the taxpayers something actually useful? This area is on nail salon and fast food overload. A bowling alley is a great idea. Why not consider turning the old A&P into something recreational? There's a complete lack of commercial vision in Barnegat.

Remember Frogger's? No thanks. Leave the A&P site retail.

What about a steak restaurant like Lone Star or Texas Road House. You have to drive to Brick or way south to eat at a place like that. We already have 2 bagel shops, why another? Put something different in there like maybe a good bakery, we don't have anything like that around here either. A bowling ally sounds nice for our area, then our kids don't have to drive far to have fun.

Would like to see wholesome stores and shops - bagel shop, yogurt place is great, a place like Sweet Jenny's or diner, just as long as there are no liquor licenses involved.

We need a good supermarket in Barnegat - not necessarily in Barnegat Crossings, but perhaps where the A&P used to be or in place of Genuardi's when they move out. Stop and Shop has my vote. It's the best supermarket.

The word on the former A&P site is that there is discussion to open a Big Lots over there. This would be a nice addition to the township, as they sell everything from groceries to gadgets to patio furniture at discount prices.

As far as Barnegat Crossing is concerned ... a bowling alley would be terrific. There isn't enough to do in this town, and such an establishment with a bar would attract people from all over the southern part of the county. My hope is that we will get some fast food establishments that will be unique to the area: Arby's, Popeyes, Five Guys (or another "better burger" chain), Bubbakoo's (or another local or nationwide burrito chain), Chick-Fil-A, or Pollo Tropical would be nice to have. Of course, it would also be great to have a restaurant like a Golden Corral (imagine the business that it would do, with all the national advertising it gets), but we'll take whatever we can get. Hopefully we'll get some places that fill a void in the area.

When is the retro fitness gym slated to open?

no more fast food or bagels.....we need a real restraunt with a good bar......so tired of the horrible food around here....

How about Surf Taco, Chipotle, or Panera Bread ?

I agree with you Gina. There are enough bagel places and fast food places. Get a steak place in here and they would do a good business. There are already Italian and Chinese food places around. A place the whole family can go and enjoy themselves.

I wish we had a Horn & Hardart.

A chain resturant, or a mom and pop place?

Lets see, we'll probably get another Pizza Parlor, a Dry Cleaners, a Chinese Takeout place, maybe a gift store, and other redundant and uninspiring businesses. Like we need more of these. Love that we will have yet another Bagel Shop, you can never have too many. Oh, I see we are getting an "Asian Restaurant", so my fears are already realized. Maybe an auto parts store? How about they put in something really unique and interesting like a fast food restaurant like Subway. Yeah, we need more of those culture-enriching establishments to further satisfy the pedestrian and mundane wants of this town's population.

And oh, we so need another store that sells cell phones. Can't possibly get enough of that. While they are at it, perhaps work with the MVC to have an office there so we don't have to drive the 4 miles to Manahawkin.

What I really can't wait for though, is another Italian place serving mediocre pizza for 2.50 a slice. You just haven't lived until you have that.

This town disgusts me. I have been here 30 years. All that has been done is to sell the place out to developers and worthless business entities that serve up the same schlock and crap all over town. Just so the lazy-ass residents of this town can get a burger, a pint of Lo Mein, or a slice.

Wegmens, friendly's, outlet stores, roy rogers, qvc outlet would be nice.

When I moved into Barnegat 23 years ago, there was one pharmacy, no we have 6 at last count. A&P was a always substandard and the property managers did nothing to support the store. The entire shopping center is an eyesore that even after improvements leaves a lot to be desired. The plaza needs to be heavily updated to attract the right tenants. Big Lots is step in the wrong direction. The entire Route 9 corridor has been neglected and the surrounding towns have beat us to the punch for the most attractive ratable's. My wife shopped at Shop-Rite in Manahawkin for many years and now patronizes the new Waretown store. She bypassed Genuardis and A&P for either Shop-Rite. The political machine in this town as well as the preservation police have driven away several developers with great ideas for Route 9, while the establishment formerly known as "Down the Hatch" still stands. We are the laughing stock of Southern Ocean County whose time has passed. It will be very difficult to catch up. Wegman's would fare just as Genuardi's did. I agree Stop & Shop would do well in the Genuardi's space, nothing will do well in the A&P space until improvements are made.

no more chinese places needed. in the new strip mall across from the domino's strip mall on rt 9 went out of business within 6 months.

How about a Bottom Dollar food store in the old A&P bldg.

Roy Rogers or White Castle would be nice ! I would like a Bowling Alley and maybe a Stop N Shop where A& P used to be

Not excitng...I was at the thought of some "new" retail like Retro other than that it the same old same old...need a new draw for old Barnegat....Outbacks, Country Buffet, wow how about a movie theatre...anything but another Chinese, pizza or DRUG STORE...COME ON

Trader Joe's, Wegmans, Stop N Shop....

The only thing another shopping mall is going to give us is more pollution - not the necessary and needed oxygen for survival. Anybody think of that aspect? Not likely! Let's leave well enough alone and let Nature restore herself without further contributing to our planet's and our children's destruction.

We need a variety of businesses in town, not dublicating the ones we have. How about a Wegmans or a good produce store like Delicious Orchards. We travel all the way up to Colts Neck to get our produce at Delicious Orchards, because of the variety and selection they have in their store.

Having had a conflict with mistaken-priced Progresso Soup several years
ago when the female manager (wrongfully) summoned -called the Barnegat Police
to have me removed ... HOW NICE, I complained to their headquarters and got
no where ...
What happened to the BAR and Bowling Alley??
I has concerned using the nearby Church parking lot would not be too cool ...
with near drunks staggering to their cars in a Church Parking Lot??
So much for Planning Board ethics ...
Did the developer get 50% Property Tax relief for up to 34-years???
Stafford provided huge tax relief to Walters and associated companies
for up to 34-years ... nice deal when K-Mart pays up to a $1-milion for just
the single store on 72, the business park according to last OPRA search
paid about that for about 2-years ...
Barnegat and Stafford are still trying to figure out who and what they represent???
Citizens seniors abound and are in many cases fixed incomes struggling
with property taxes ... commercial over taxed are not the answer ...
tax abatements are totally wrong.

OOPs the incident was at Genardi's. After that
incredible wrongful treatment, may family and I have
never returned.

HOOTERS

What Southern Ocean County needs badly are
solid large corporations with job openings for OUR
youths, seniors all represent a large demographic
and are burdened with growing and huge property
taxes ... the yoots are leaving Ocean County towns
in droves ... ask any parent who is trying to down-size
and sell ... not an easy task unless you wish to sell
below it's real value ... and all the work you did to
the wrongs done by builders who did buyers wrong
on sub structure results ...

Wegmans, Whole Foods, Trader Joes, or even a Cheesecake factory! Lets class this area up a little! We need it!

OOOooo...or a Bobby's Burger Palace!

GameStop for kids - closer than traveling to waretown or manahawkin. Face it, digital video gaming is not going away anytime soon.

Modern Bowling alley with bar and pool tables or sure, family oriented places need to be brought into barnegat.

FOOD PLACES: Chilis, Ruby Tuesdays, Golden Corral, Chick-fil-A, Outback or Longhorn Steakhouses, Famous Dave's, Chipolte, Panera Bread, Salad Works etc would be better than redundant oriental food, bagels and the all too common drive thru fast food joints.

A really good Dollar Store would be beneficial too - they bring in big money and they have things that are sometimes needed as a last minute item for parties or BBQs, such as plates, cups, etc etc etc. instead of being burdened to go into a busy supermarket during "shore season".

A movie theater would be good too, it generates good revenue.

The town does not need any more liquor stores, pharmacies, or redundant garbage. In with the new, out with the old. :)

Who except the excess of county and local politicians
can afford Wholefoods ... check your demographics ...
they'd never put a Wholefoods in Barnegat and or Stafford.
Just not enough wealthy for now ... cannot understand
all the Drug Chains ... Walgreen's is coming to Stafford
across from the hospital and will drive a long standing
mom and pop drug store out of township.
Friends invested in SaladWorks, lost almost a Million
in the business that failed ... folks do not want salads ...
area folks are on PORK DIETS.

Anyone except a Metro connected business ...
check out the massive developer connected retail stores
from Moorestown, Cherry Hill, Medford, Atco, Berlin,
Toms River and Stafford ... THEY know how to work the
POLITICS of the development game ... anyone guess???
Yes, TAX ABATEMENTS ... PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES ...

NO one backing me on a "HOOTERS" awesome wings.....!!!

Bowling alley's are a bad investment, no one will build one. A good restaurant with liquor service would be nice. Maybe a nice cocktail lounge,something for the over 35's Probably too expensive for an antique shop. How about an ice cream shop. Wegman's would be great at the soon to be gone Genaudi's. A&P should be divided into separate stores, or perhaps an antiques center. We do not need "Town Center Development" Along W.Bay East of unning River Road or for a mile(or toe) on either side along Rt.9. We need a new form og government. A mayor elected by the people, 3 councilmen elected from 3 districts and a vice-mayor selected by the mayor. These could be paid 100,000 a year total.

DUNKIN DONUTS!!
TOP TOMATO!!
PANERA or ATLANTA BREAD!!

Dunkin Donuts is supposedly, some how, going to be built behind the Delta gas station next to the Advance Auto. Not sure how the heck that is supposed to work out, or was even zoned into play being where the building is located. Anyone know more info on that?

Yes, Cherry Hill, Moorestown, Berlin, Lumberton and even the Medford region are or have expanded bringing in business to their towns. The more ratables, the better.

There's really nothing in town for the kids - especially those who are not involved in sports or don't have that interest. Why not open some type of facility that would benefit kids of all ages? I dunno, just a suggestion.

I would like to see a " Bowling Alley " go up, so the High School has a place that is closer that the Bowling team can get more practice time in. It would save on the "Gas " for driving. Our children R grown but we had to waste alot of valuable family time traveling to far away Bowling Alleys that were overcrowed. My husband & I would join a team.

How about a BOSTON MARKET? We already have McD's, BK, Chinese Restaurants & Bagel Places, a D&D always good too. BOSTON MARKET is Fast Food but made HEALTHIER (somewhat lol) A&P could be a BIG LOTS. A place much needed for things needed in your recidence. Tired of always going to Toms River.

The Genuardi's down by my daughter became Trader Joes. That would be nice. As far as Barnegat crossing goe, how about a Christmas Tree shoppe? Would love to see one closer than Brick.

Panera would be fantastic and some real clothing stores.

I would like to see a steak restaurant like Texas Road House or Lonestar.

Great ideas and I'm sorry if I'm repeating but here's mine: If its official and Genuardis is leaving then that space would be the best fit for another grocery store. Why spend more to transform that space into something else and then spend more money to build up another grocery store. A bright inviting grocery store in the place of Genuardis is great!

As far as the Crossings, wouldnt the residents like a store or a few little stores to buy shoes, clothing and other things!?! I'm tired of going to Manahawkin or Lacey to buy things for my family! I'm tired of shoveling money into neighboring towns with lower taxes because the only thing my town has to offer is fast food and salons! A grocery store is great but we are replacing one with the other, we need money generating businesses in our town!

Bowling Alleys, one large restaurant (PJ's, Red Lobster, Buffalo Wild Wings), and a bunch of little strip chain STORES not salons and pizza joints! Examine the needs, not just take things that we currently have and move more of them to the Crossings!

i hope the twp committee, puts someome in charge of sending info package out? and include some of the ideas listed here ????

Readers' comments compel me bring a cold but honest eye to the development of Barnegat Crossings. These letters make it appear that Barnegat has few good stores because it has an unsophisticated population with low level taste. Where all things could be suggested, our residents opt for fast food, nice bagel shops, supermarkets and promote a prohibitionist viewpoint. Why not a upscale steak house with a full service bar? And why would a bowling alley be anti family if it has a bar? Other sorts of all-weather recreation should also be created. A roller rink or ice rink? A place for ballroom dancing? A tavern with country western dancing, shuffle board, and trivial pursuit games? All these are possible in the space available. We could also use and anchor level department store. Keep supermarkets to the Genardi's site and old A&P site appropriately upgraded. It is pathetic to live in a lovely area which fails to develop attractive restaurants and stores. How about a restaurant by the dock where it is possible to watch the sunset while sipping on a fine wine? Surely at this point, Barnegat has attracted a lot of well to do folks who expect some sophisticated options in dining.

a steak house was proposed and with your cocktails too! unsophisticated population with low level taste? look around, where do you live? perhaps you should stay inside your clubhouse and enjoy your ballroom dancing, the dock has wonderful music to enjoy while sipping on a fine wine? all the things you mentioned are already availible close by, maybe you should have stayed where you lived before, this is the greatest country in the world, with many differant people, sorry, they don't appeal to your idea of "sophisticated" "come on down here" with the rest of us, you may wake-up and find out some are more sophisticated then you!

What I find fascinating about all the comments here is the impression I get about commenters' thoughts on where the businesses come from. The Township government doesn't bring them into town, nor does Cardinale start businesses. It is people just like all of you posting comments, who have a great idea for what would be successful and DO IT. Quit thinking what someone ELSE should do in Barnegat, and get started! Every successful business was started by someone like you and I who had an idea. The difference between them and us? They DID IT, and we TALKED about it.......

Well, we don't need another pizzeria (have at least 7 of them), don't need another drug store (have at least 5 of them) - but a bowling alley would be good for a recreational outlet or a Christmas Tree Shoppe would be great.

We do need to do something for the A&P shopping plaza to attract buisnesses maybe an Alde's would be nice

First things you have to consider : Is the business likely to succeed , and what type of people will it bring into Barnegat.

No one will open a Bowling Alley. They have to charge $18 a game to compete with a Billiard Parlor.

White Castles are great but draw a bad late night crowd.

Mom and Pop stores are great but people won't patronize them unless they are unique and good. A bakery or seafood store or butcher might survive. The Mud City chain or Mike's Subs would also be a good fit. But we don't need a subway, Arbys, Moes, or any other large scale fast food shops in Barnegat.

What we need is a local government that cares about keeping taxes lower ( no more semi-pro baseball and football fields) , while keeping the small town feel of Barnegat (no more McDs, Big Box Stores, and such. ) And lets get some design requirements in place if they are going ahead with the plans to screw up the actual center of town around Main Street and W. Bay.

Wegman's would be great for the Genaudi's site ,but Wegmans does not want to renovate. They want to start fresh.

An antique center might work at the A&P site, or it could be divided. A Game Room Store would be good for Barnegat.

Barnegate has no upscale restaurant with liquor service. The two places that serve liquor are a Pub and a Diner with a Pub. That would be good for Barnegat. Not a chain restaurant but something unique, Like the Capt's Inn (Forked River).

trader joes or whole foods would def. draw people to the area. as of now, you have to travel north and west to get to these business. def. not a food store or liquor store, need more stores that will generate activity for everyone

Barnegat Crossing would be a terrible location for a supermarket.
The only access would be on Lighthouse Dr. which has become a disaster since the new Parkway exit, WaWa and CVS have gone in.
If you thought getting in and out of Genuardi's was rough, picture Lighthouse.

hoW ABOUT AN OFF TRACK HORSE BETTING POLAR R A MEDICAL MARIJUANA SALES FAULITY

Would love to see a WHOLE FOODS Market, Outback Steak House, Barnes & Noble,a bowling Alley with billiards and decent bar and restaurant. maybe a hobby shop. we have too many of the same types of business in barnegat, hope they can get more creative in their leasing

Jim, It has nothing to do with creative leasing. It has to do with location.
Once you get off the Parkway everything gets bottled up on local streets.

Ok we do not need another bagel place, asian restaurant, nail salon, cell phone place. Why would they put a physical therapy place in a center like that? If we are building all these new houses and we have more families moving in, why not put in some stores like a trader joes, five guys, bobbys burger palace, outback? A bowling alley would be nice for the kids around here. How about an old navy, or other clothing stores? How ridiculous that they are trying to put in more crap around here. I think we need some fresh, younger folks to step in and make some decisions that are going to help make this town better, out with the old already! Bring some class to the town please!!! Lets not run out the mom and pop bagel shops, asian restaurants, etc. that are already here by putting in more!! I am actually suprised that they are not building another pharmacy really!

Retro fitness. Steakhouse.clouthing store. Bowling/pool. Dollar store. Hobby store. Icecream.

When I would attend Barnegat Planningi Board sessions,
specifically to fend off and comment on the mess you all had gotten
in with Walters Homes, and the failed Pine Snake studies ...
During one session the Cardinale principal had approached and
spoke of using the adjacent church parking lot for they did not have
enough parking units in their site plan ... I asked if there was going
to be a "bar" the answer was YES! Just as the church leaders
were leaving on our break, I asked them how it would look with drunks
leaving the Bowling Alley and Bar late in the evening, and into YOUR
church parking lot? Apparently, there is no bowling alley-bar going
forward ... as you are all asking for a bar and bowling alley ...
just be conscious and stop speaking of all the property tax benefits
from Commercial properties in Stafford ... "PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES"
is the key and if it will ever be explained clearly? I for many cannot
get that explanation ... all we know property taxes in Stafford are huge
and have nearly doubled in some areas such as Beach Haven West
and Ocean Acres ...
mistakes are made every month with the decision to develop and develop
without clear and compensatory compensation for what is supposed to
be protected lands ... pay to play abounds as long as the people are not
heard ...politicians and cronies-developers will continue to win.

One of the sons who was responsible for the
family hardware store turned into small booths
and a variety of very small creative businesses.
Created a huge flea market complex on Springfield
Avenue near the connection to Rt. 78.
I was fantastic and made use of a large series of
commercial warehouse structures ... health reasons
took this young man and it eventually sold out
to Home Depot and their upscale design center ...
design centers were all closed ... not saying another
Home Depot, but perhaps a large complex that
would enable folks to rent booths and sell wares
of all types? A Wholefoods or upscale food retailer
is dumb, just check their retail prices $$$
they usually build in up scale demographic locations
not in a major senior population such as Barnegat
and or Stafford ... perhaps when the Northern residents
compete their migration into Ocean County and get
suckered into building a substandard home ...
2030 may be suitable for WholeFoods as the county
politicos who live in the area will be ready to retire at 75-90 years old
very much like our sheriff???

Golden corral would be nice

Funny over 100 comments and not one person wants a Big Lots. Well that's what you are gonna get on the East side.

If Trader JOE's is not interested, surely it has to be based upon
the demographics of this area ... we often shop at Trader Joe's in
Shrewsbury Mall and Medford locations, both have higher income
brackets, higher end homes, affordable housing are in Low Income
districts as they were developed during the 60's and 70's.
Kossef's of Beach Haven, son created an ingenious idea to put
a huge flea market series of small businesses into a large commercial
building complex ... that was shortly after the family created
first their great hardware store, surfing featured departments.
That son who passed away at a young adult age had the idea then
and can apply now to the A&P site ... many who have lost their
jobs and cannot get a job have resorted to a variety of small businesses.
The mix can be great for all ages, including those who cannot afford
the Short Hills Mall type of glitzy stores where a pair of pants rung
in the area of several hundred dollars ... Wal Mart crowds have become
successful in our area due to the demographics and moderate to
low income issues in so many families ... sorry but the facts are there.

to all the know it alls, about entertainment venues, the township has an ordinence prohibiting where more than 75% of the business cannot be entertianment why do you think there are no pin ball or arcades or pool shooting places???? look it up?
and pleae take the time to know the history of barnegat before engageing mouths!!!

I would like them to put the woods back. Soon Barnegat will look like up north.

"They paved paradise to put up a parking lot" :(

you hit it right between the eyes, 28 yrs ago i moved here from jersey city and it was a beautiful paradise to me, i never thought Barnegat would be what is today, for 28 yrs we asked for a master-plan, we never got one, same people who run the town today! both parties ruined the town! (SIC! )

I know, progress. Raise your hand if you remember when you couldn't take Lighthouse Dr to Rt 72, or Nautilus either. When Barnegat Blvd didn't go to Rt 9. When there was no light at W Bay and Barnegat Blvd. I'd like to see more small businesses, not big box stores and chains. You know, folks who live and care about the place, charm. small town stuff.

I would like to see something like an indoor farmer's market at Genuardi's. I've been in them in PA, and what they have are things like a butcher, a vegetable stand, a bakery, a juice bar, a seafood counter all in one building. I'm probably not explaining it correctly, but it absolutely amazing. All fresh foods in one building. No canned goods or packaged goods, so it's not a supermarket, it's just individual businesses in one building.

What some of you are missing with regards to having higher end retail stores, eateries and/or supermarkets is this:

Those "higher end" folks have to travel THROUGH the Barnegat area via Rte 72, Rte 9 and the NJPKWY to get to LBI.

IF such types of stores were opened, YES, they WOULD benefit and yes the TWP would also benefit, not just during the "tourist season", but once word got out, trust me, those stores and locations would be busy year round.

The Committee or some of you have to stop thinking with a closed mind or the mentality that what could be opened in Barnegat is NOT just for the people of Barnegat. It's about getting businesses into town and getting the surrounding areas to KNOW such business IS HERE. By doing such, it draws in more people, maybe even putting an inkling of a thought in those folks minds that "hey, this is a nice town, it has amenities AND if we move here, we'd only be 15-20 mins from our favorite beach/shore town instead of the 1-2hr drive".

Seriously, open your minds, think BIG and take the many ideas above and do your research to see how those same businesses HAVE benefitted other towns in more ways than one.

C'mon, if the TWP committee can't see the writing on the walls, then the vote should speak louder than anything at the next polls.

Have you seen the kids on town lately? Have you seen them walking around town with nothing to do except get in trouble? What else would you have them do though? We offer them nothing. We gave them a skate park, whoopie, have you seen it lately? Oh and by the way, most kids don't skate anyway. Are you not aware that more and more of them are turning to drugs at disturbingly younger ages? Do you think bagel shops and and fast food joints will fill that void? They need a place to go that is local for them. A place that's fun and at the same time safe. These are our children and we are failing them miserably. Stop thinking about your own fat asses and think about what is truly important. We have a chance to show a family fun type developer that we have plenty of children who's entertainment they can profit from all year round if they choose to set up shop here. We don't need more places to eat. You can drive yourself to the next town for that. Your kids don't have that luxury. As for you old goats west of the parkway, sorry but the kids are the future and from what I see walking around town it's looking kind of bleak.

I doubt that a Girls&Boys Club would have much of a drawing.
There are currently two Boy Scout troops and several Girl Scout Troops and they all have rather small memberships.
Can you actually imagine parents allowing their kids to travel by bus to AC without any supervision?
Or even to the beaches on LBI without supervision.

As a scout leader for over 25 years, I don't think that homophobic, religious organization is a very good description.

If the shoe fits, I would have to agree with Leroy's opinion.

There are two Boy Scout troops with companion Cub Packs. One is chartered to a church, the other is chartered to the Masons.
There is also a renewed special needs Scout troop which is chartered to the American Legion. The units chartered to the church are not restricted to members of that church.
So I don't see how "homophobic religious organization" fits.

You want more? ok http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/25/304192/boy-scouts-of-america-removed-mother-from-troop-after-discovering-she-is-a-lesbian/?mobile=nc Or how about http://news.change.org/stories/standing-up-to-the-boy-scouts-homophobia-in-philadelphia or http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/17/opinion/le-sunday17.S4 You may be a bigot and you may be in denial, but as always you are wrong. I'll give you a couple hundred more to read if you want?

This is the link that "Rick" doesn't want you to read http://www.skeptictank.org/bsagayh3.htm Let's see how long it stays up on the Patch this time. God Bless America. Every time the bigots of Barnegat don't like the truth, they delete it.

How is that other story?
12 U.S. Senators Are Space Aliens! - Weekly World News 6/7/1994

Some time when you aren't busy dreaming up new conspiracy theories maybe you could explain to we mere mortals how to delete a post form the Patch.

I moved from Wayne to Brick to get away from all the traffic and hustle and bustle. Then moved from Brick to Barnegat 22 years ago for the same reason. A steak restaurant would be nice, but to keep building to attract more people to come here ...
Do we want our part of Rt 9 to be like Lacey with the 4 lanes or like Manahwakin where it takes forever to get someplace. And the 15 min ride to the beach, forget about it, it would be more like an hour to get there.

Hey Rick and Bob,

C'mon guys and no offense, however, it seems there was, is or may be some type of riff between you both for whatever reasons - can either of you Politely quit the personal attacks against each other in nearly every other Patch article?

It's truly uncalled for and if either of you believe one or the other is removing this or that from your public responses, contact the Editor/Patch and they CAN tell who is removing anything from their server database.

Please cut back or quit the attacks against each other. I think you are both most likely decent individuals in person, however the keyboard personalities and attacks are disrupting topics on here, some responses of which are off base and not necessary.

Now, we return the public back to their regularly scheduled Patching...

:) ;)

come on, this forum was for suggestions on barnegat crossings, not a pissing contest,

I personally never removed anything from this post, and I doubt any of the regional editors did. If we remove something, we usually will give some sort of a warning and say why we are removing it, and that usually happens when a thread disintegrates into name-calling, etc. We don't care what your opinion is, political or otherwise, I promise, as long as you aren't slandering anyone and are reasonably respectful about it -- I emphasize the "reasonably respectful" part.

Nancy & Bob,
If you think a Boys & Girls club would work out in this area, why not start one?
You could start with a survey, possibly through the schools, to see if there is any interest.
If it seems viable and gets started, let me know I'd be glad to help out.

Rebecca
Contact me at allure45connie@yahoo.com My wife and I have experience with entertainment industry.

Is this Barnegat Crossings still happening????

They need a commitment from a certain number of stores before they can continue. They are hoping for some stores to open Nov/Dec. But in reality it is more like next March/April, or it could be years. The Genaurdi's is still available as is the WaWa. Most the big chains are in nearby Manahawkiin. Mom and Pop stores can't pay the high rents. Possibilities include a hotel, if they can get the permits, or a Chilli's or Outback.

Back during the 40's Verteran Housing was the big thing ...
what about some more affordable -low income housing?
With the way things are headed in Stafford and Barnegat many
who thought by moving to Ocean County as retired seniors
they would be able to live out the remainder of their days ...
YEAH THE JOKES ON EVERYONE ...
Heard home property assessments in Warren Grove have
been lowered but now the property taxes are GOING UP
TO OFFSET THE DEFICIT ... HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE,
HUGE NUMBER OF SALARIES, PENSIONS BENEFITS
HEALTH CARE PAID SICK DAYS FOR THOSE WHO RETIRE,
COMP DAYS, OVERTIME YEAH THE YEARS AHEAD
WILL BE A DISASTER THANKS FOR VOTING PARTISAN ...
OCEAN COUNTY GOP ...