This weekend, Barnegat Township will lose its only supermarket, Genuardi's on West Bay Avenue, and a smaller Wawa convenience store, which is also located on West Bay Avenue.
"Can you believe it is closing," one resident was overheard saying to another in the parking lot of the Genuardi's store earlier this week.
Despite the fact that Genuardi employees were informed of the closure in October, many township residents are upset at seeing their town's only supermarket close.
At the recent Township Committee meeting, several residents expressed dismay at the closure, and wondered how the closure would affect other businesses located in the same area as Genuardi's.
"Having no food store in this town is a travesty," said Barnegat resident Larry Cataldo.
Joseph Provdo, who works at Marchiono's Pizza and Pasta, which is located a few stores away from Genuardi's, said Genuardi's has been scaling back operations since the closure was announced. He noted that even though the shelves are basically empty at Genuardi's this week, the pizza place still was doing a good business.
"We have the best pizza around, so I am not as worried," Provdo said. Regardless, he said, several business owners have expressed an interest in looking at their rental agreements to see if they would need to pay as much toward rent, since the anchor of the property will now be vacant.
At the recent Township Committee meeting, several committee members discussed the rental issue. Committeman Martin Lisella said "once an anchor store leaves, the rest of the tenants should have a reduction."
Safeway, Inc., the supermarket chain's parent company, announced earlier this year it would sell 16 Pennsylvania Genuardi's locations to Giant Food Stores and either close or sell off the remainder of the company's stores in the Philadelphia market, which includes southern New Jersey.
The Barnegat location, open since 1999, was among those stores which was up for sale; it was not part of the Giant deal.
In a statement released to the press earlier this year, Steve Neibergall, President of Safeway's Eastern Division, said the company was planning on focusing resources in those "operating areas where we have a stronger presence."
Wawa, meanwhile, opened a larger convenience store in Barnegat, and a manager at the smaller store that is closing told Patch that most of the employees would be relocated to either the larger location or the Pebble Beach location.
Deborah Litter
6:43 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
I only used this store for picking up one or two items, never a full shopping because their prices were always too high. Wish ShopRite, who has stores in every town but ours, would pick it up. We don't need a super ShopRite, this store would be a great location for them.
JON SERPICO
9:05 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
That store is too small for a shoprite, what happened to the Barnegat crossing and do we need another plaza if we can't keep stores in the existing plaza's. Thats a major reason to support your local stores wether it's groceries or clothes or anything, this is our town and no one wants to see it look like an abandoned ghost town!
Pineshiker
8:58 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
I don't think that their prices were more, I have been going there for years and with the exception of a few items that I would not purchase at Genuiardis due to the prices their prices were the same or better than most of Shop Rites stuff. I had a gift card to Shoprite given to me so I went there and was surprised at how high their prices were. For many items they were much higher than Genuiardis prices.
make a difference
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
shoprite superstore is going in next to the super wawa. the area right off the parkway by the stopsign to the right is nothing.
Rick
3:46 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
make a difference,
Where did you get that notion? That was the rumor about the big vacant area across the street on Lighthouse. A superduper grocery store, a bowling alley, maybe a movie theater and a Retro Fitness. Where did they go?
Susan
9:05 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Where are you Cirulli & Melchiondo now? After December not even a grocery store in Barnegat. How sickening. Where will PNC go?
Mike Howard
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
PNC Bank is talking about moving to the Gunning River Mall.
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
THE TELLERS CLAIM PNC IS TRING TO GET PERMITS FOR A MOBIL UNIT????
two kidsndogs
9:05 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
I agree with Deborah! not only the prices were high but the variety too low..I vote Shoprite!
Susan
12:08 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
I believe we had a chance for a Shop Rite a couple of years ago. People complained there would be too much traffic. Shop Rite ended up in Waretown and guess what people, we still have the traffic.
Just my opinion
9:05 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Its about time! Too expensive. Low stock and expired items all the time.
Xavier
9:05 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
We could never afford to do our weekly shopping there but it was convenient for picking up one or two items.
Ray
9:05 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
It is a shame that Barnegat with 22,000 residents won't have its own supermarket. We now will have to go to Waretown of Manahawkin. What has our Town Fathers done for us? Look at Lighthouse Rd. Trees have been cut down, but nothing is happening.
Susan
9:06 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Ray is so right about the trees on Lighthouse Drive. It annoys me that all those trees were cut down and nothing is being done with the property. How could this happen?
Jacqueline Ferrara
9:09 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
I wonder what is going to happen with PNC Bank. If someone else purchases the place, would they still be there?
Xavier
12:08 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Yea, I'm wondering this myself. There aren't very many branches around.
Sal Sorce
12:08 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Several years ago I was over charged for several cans of Progresso
soup, upon addressing the issue with a woman who identified herself
as the manager. I explained that the young woman who scanned in the
purchase was not providing the advertised price ... the final bill was huge
at a larger retail price ... professional but firm that the product was not
providing the correct computer price ... based upon that issue, she was
argumentative and to the point of calling the Barnegat Police to have me
removed from the premises ... since that day I have never returned nor
responded to any broadside advertising pieces that went on to enjoy the
Stafford recycle bins ... for many years ... glad that they are gone ... as
for many do not miss it's style of business.
A complaint indicated they would investigate the matter, but did indicate
that the incident apparently does not reach the level of calling a policeman
to have me escorted out of any Genuardi stores.
Dedicated to Shop Rite since the start ... knew the family who started the
famous food chain stores ...
Got heated and upset to the extent
Dave Sleeper
10:50 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
After reading Sal Sorce, I have to belive his real name is Sheldon.
SB Girl
12:08 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Would be a great location for Top Tomato...just sayin'
Rick
8:20 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
If a general supermarket can't survive in Barnegat because their prices are higher than others in the area why would anyone think that a high priced specialty store survive?
Sal Sorce
12:08 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Interesting fact ... the Walters Group was responsible
for the building and construction portion of Genuardi's Food Store ...
Interesting Karma for the future ???
Hinduism or Buddhism -- the sum of a person's actions, previous
states of existence ... viewed as deciding their fate in future
Cindy
12:08 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
This really sucks, no convenient food store and no PNC !
Leroy Souveroff
12:53 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
We should start a write in campaign to Wegman's to come. Normally Wegman's and Shopright want to biuld new. But Wegman's is OK with mulitl-level stores and a second level could be built over the old Genuardi's.
Another alternative is to use the store as an Antique/Collectible Center. I know of at least 20 dealers who would be interested if the price was right. This would allow PNC to stay in the building and would bring visitors to the shopping center, without competition. Genuardi's competed with Sub Busters and Marchioni's
SB Girl
8:19 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Just what we need...more old crap that no one wants! We have more than enough antique dealers in this town. Hve you looked in their windows when you're stopped at the light, they don't sell much...same crap I threw out years ago!
Susan
10:49 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Yeah, just what we need another Antique/Collectible Center.
Sal Sorce
1:19 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
With several corporate businesses play
a musical chair game ... surely the Barnegat
residents and officials will be faced with
the prospect of being held hostage on a huge
tax abatement to get a new business in the
soon to be vacated Genuardi's ... what tax
benefits were provided when they first decided
on beautiful Banegat ???
It's the statewide process ... with many vacant
and former sites sitting vacant for many years ...
that's the process employed by the huge box or
large corporate held retail businesses ...
check out the state ... as every county has the
same syndrome ... get a tax abatement for upto
30-years ... decide to close and move on before
the actual tax assessments hit their coffers ...
not necessarily what's going on here but has
anyone ever inquired ???
Sal Sorce
1:19 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
The amount of residents leaving New Jersey
is huge ... when Christie was first put into office
the number of large income folks was over
$90 BILLION IN LOST WEALTH ALL LEFT OVER
WHAT ONE CAN DETERMINE IS A NOT SO
FRIENDLY STATE FOR BUSINESS ... OR FOR
THE PINE SNAKES OR TREE FROGS ...
THIS TOWN IS FOR SALE ...
ANYONE CAN YOU HEAR US ???
CHRISTIE 'LOOKS LIKE HE NEVER
MISSED A MEAL" GOVERNOR ...
WHAT ARE YOU GOING DO WHEN
THINGS GET EVEN WORSE ???
WHO CAN YOU BLAME ???
THE CHINESE ???
YEAH IRAN !!!
Rick
3:03 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
I notice several posts here that say they only shopped there for a few items and did the bulk of their shopping at other stores. They also said the same thing when the late great A&P closed.
But in both cases they don't want these stores to close. Stores, and grocery stores in particular, don't stay in business to be convenient for a few people, they stay in business because of volume.
Brian
5:04 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Agreed, but by the same token, businesses do not stay in business without being competitve within their category. Genuardi's turned away customers with their high prices and instead relied on their location for convenience. Genuardi's was well known in the Barnegat community, and had they offered better prices, they would have attracted more business. When it comes to feeding a family, the $20-$50 price difference over ShopRite is a hefty sum of money that could be put to better use. I don't want to see it go either, but they failed to get with the program. Survival of the fittest. Here's hoping for a new movie theater, and/or Retro Fitness to take Genuardi's place, and maybe we can do away with the Baregat Crossings [soon-to-be] disaster.
SB Girl
8:19 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Top Tomato thrives in Brick...they are a specialty market and many people in the senior communities (which Brick has many) like to be able to pick up a prepared meal or decent meat and produce (which Shop Rite does not have) or decent fresh baked bread...With all the senior communities on West Bay Ave, I think Top Tomato would thrive here!
Jane Doe
8:20 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Pathmark was old, smelly, dirty and plain old gross!!! Genuradis is way over priced!!! It would be nice to have some food store is this town that we could do out weekly shopping at. I think Barnegat might be the only town in NJ without its own super market. This town is crazy!!! You pay a fortune for taxes and have to go to other towns to shop, leaving all the taxes benefits to our neighing towns. I think it's time to get into the 21st century and get a new mayor and new committee.
JON SERPICO
9:06 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
@ Jane doe, I don't think you can blame the mayor or the committee for A&P or Genuradis we are all facing tough times and if these places where mismanaged how can we blame the Mayor or the committee. To survive in this economy it take a lot of hard work, patients and dare I say a little luck, We have to come together as a community and support or local business!
Pineshiker
10:49 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Their prices were no higher than Shoprites. Sometimes they were lower. I stopped going to Shoprite after trying it hearing everyone say how good their prices were, they are no better at all. Genuardis was the same if not better and had better sales.
Capt Jacobsen Mey
9:06 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
You hit the nail on the head Jane Doe - time to vote OUT the incompetent Mayor and Committee... Barnegat is in need of a major change at the TOP, otherwise, there's no hope for this town, OR it's tax payers. There goes the ANCHOR store out of that shopping center, that's definitely going to hurt the smaller stores in that plaza for sure.
Is funny everyone is worried about PNC - why? Does all of Barnegat bank only at the tiny PNC bank within Genardis - when there is Ocean First, TD Bank and other numerous banks around the area? If everyone is so concerned, contact PNC corporate and ask them what they will be doing with the PNC bank within Genardis.
Move the Police Dept. and Town Hall folks into the soon to be vacant Genardis, then bulldoze the existing, aged and outdated Municipal complex... Oh wait... Can't do that, because what would happen to that new non-essential 2nd memorial that was just built...
Maybe the Mayors office can become the new PNC bank for everyone, after all, the Twp's account has been fattened up from the high property tax payments and there's no shame misappropriating State Open Space Funds, so maybe Twp. Tax Payers can pull from that fund as well....
:)
Ken Bank
9:06 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I think an all-you-can-eat buffet restaurant would do nicely. Maybe our Governor will attend the grand opening.
Ann Powers
11:37 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
If you can't think of anything nice or intelligent to say..........maybe it's because you're not nice or not intelligent. The Christie/weight jokes truly are boorish and low class, but typical.
Felicia Massari
1:16 pm on Sunday, October 21, 2012
We can't afford to have a vacant store there. Anyone coming into Barnegat off the parkway and seeing that...not good for the town.
Anne Marie LoScalzo
7:26 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
My husband and I are very upset about Genuardi's closing.We find the store very convenient and staffed with friendly and caring people,who will now be among the unemployed. How sad to think we will not have a supermarket in this town, and that people chose not to support it while it was here.Some of us will miss you!
Anne Marie and Ben LoScalzo
Pineshiker
10:49 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
I am so with you Anne. I don't know why people say their prices were so high. I have found that Shoprite prices were just as high and sometimes higher when I went there once in a while. Genuardis had a few things that were too expensive like laundry detergent and shampoo, but their prices and sales were comprable to other supermarkets and I loved going there. I don't know where I am going to go now since I really don't like Shoprite, plus it's so inconvenient.
Colleen Platt
6:08 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Readers - you will notice that some of these comments are from the original story when we reported on the closing of Genuardi's in October...I thought a lot of these comments were interesting, but they were posted after the article had already fallen off the "main page" for Patch, so I am refeaturing here, to keep the discussion going. Thanks, Colleen
John Jackson
12:52 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Glad it is gone. Over priced, low quality a dump! Wake up Barnegetto! Just like the rest of your town!
Bill
8:19 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
A&P had decent selection, but had poor mgt that did not control their ermployees.... 2-3 very rude checkout ladies which literally ruined their business ... People dont put up with rudeness at checkout. Sorry to say Genardis.. Had 2 bad apples also at checkout also... Get involved mgrs.... It is bad enough that you are over priced ... But your also going to be rude to your customers ! I think not ... People will simply shop elsewhere ! I told this to both of the mgrs at genardis and A&P ... They obviously didn't listen. As for the rude employees ... Look where you are now ... Unemployed! Idiots !
Xavier
8:19 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Now I see the smaller Wawa is closing also. I knew it was only a matter of time but it's going to suck for people like me coming from the East to go North on the Parkway. I'm not driving over the bridge and dealing with fifteen traffic lights to go to the new Wawa and then back again. It's becoming a ghost town. More lost tax revenue. Yay.
Rick
4:43 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
SOME good news for you Chris. There won't be any loss of tax revenue when the old WaWa closes. The taxes are based on the building, not the store in the building.
Drivingtoofar
8:19 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
The wawa closing while expected is new. I live in "east" barnegat and have to get on the parkway north every morning. The new Wawa is so inconvinient to get tothat I rarely go (unless on way home from work). This is disappointing...
Pineshiker
9:04 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Agreed!!! I wont go to the new Wawa unless I am coming off of the Parkway. They made it so crazy to get into that it is way too frustrating.
Rick
4:43 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Pineshiker, The roads around the "new improved" WaWa and the insuing traffic paterns weren't developed by anyone in Barnegat. They were developed by the county and state.
John B Taxpayer
8:58 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Safeway deliberately jacked up the prices knowing the store would fail. Shoprite does't need us they know we'll travel to Waretown or Manahawkin. Complete mis- management by our "Planning Dept."
Pineshiker
9:03 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
I officially hate living in Barnegat now. It started when they made all of the streets NO RIGHT ON RED (where clearly there is NO need to sit there to wait for a green in just about all of these spots where they put up the no right on red signs!!!!), NOW we wont have a grocery store AND the most convenient WAWA will be closing. The new WaWa is the most INCONVENIENT convience store that is in existence!! Getting into that WaWa is such a PAIN in the rear end that I wont go there unless I absolutely have no other choice at the time. I want to move out of this silly town for good!
John B Taxpayer
12:52 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
The traffic signals and timing is a Classic case of DUMBASS! I would never locate a retail business in this town as it's made difficult to get around.
Rick
10:49 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Well Pineshiker, If you 'offically' hate living in Barnegat, maybe it is time for you to do like Genuardi's did and leave.
Pineshiker
11:37 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
I knew I would get a mean comment back on this one, instead of someone seeing the many problems with our silly town. And believe me, I am planning on getting out if my house can sell, since not many people are buying housed in this silly town and I certianly don't blame them! I would have been out already!
Rick
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
What "mean" comment? I just made a suggestion.
That's what most of our ancestors did. They didn't like the conditions where they were so they picked up and moved, whether it was from Europe or Asia for one town or state to another.
Xavier
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
A majority of the roads with "No right on red" are county or state controlled. You can tell just by how poorly timed they are with one another.
Pineshiker
3:46 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Rick It was mean.... suggestions are worded a bit kinder lol But hey, it's ok! Like I said if I could get out that easily I would for sure.
Pineshiker
3:46 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Chris, Yes they are times very poorly, but most of those turns, especially the one turning from W Bay right onto Barnegat Blvd used to be ok to turn right on red, they finally get around to getting the right turners their own lane then put a big sign up NO RIGHT ON RED!!! I just shook my head when I first saw that and said I think Barnegat twnshp thinks people here are stupid or blind that they can't look for the one or two cars that cross W Bay ave in the time your stuck at that Red Light. And a few other spots that are just crazy that you have to sit through the red light to turn right. Ugh, I don't even want toget going on this again haha, I go through a speach to whoever designed it like this every time I sit at one of those red lights and it's perfectly clear to be able to turn. I think they wanted more oportunities to give out tickets or something.
Rick
3:46 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
The intersections or parts of intersections where there are No Turn on Red (and there are only three) signs are where there is limited visability on the cross streets.
Barnegat Blvd & Bay Ave and Bay Ave, and Bay Ave and Lighthouse.
One of the problems with right turn on red is that the people making those turns go into the intersection as if they had a green light. The Right Turn on Red rule actually is "Right Turn on Red, AFTER Full Stop and if There Are No Vehicles on the Cross Street".
Pineshiker
4:43 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Rick, There are 5 spots that now are No Right On Red, in Barnegat, 3 of which used to be ok to turn right on red, and I think everyone knows the rule to stop then go which is what I always did. And the places where there we are not allowed to turn right on red do not have limited visibility, and everytime I am at those lights, there are at the most maybe 2 or 3 cars driving that I would have had to watch for. The visibility is fine in those areas. The only spot that is still ok to turn right on red is from Gunning River road onto West Bay Ave. Rt 9 onto WBay is No right on red, Barnegat Blvd onto WBay ave NoRonRed and so on. Visibility is all fine and clear in those areas. Maybe some people went through them as if they were green, I haven't seen that, anyone I had been behind did the stop look and go thing.
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
PINESHIKER; AFTER YOU LEAVE THISTOWN THAT YOU HATE,,, PLESE TURN OFF THE LIGHT!
Marianne P. Clemente
10:49 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
It's a shame the Genuardi's is closing, but ever since they opened and I saw the prices, I knew if their pricing structure didn't change, it would just be a matter of time before they closed. At the Township Committee Meeting last Monday I suggested to they go after a Top Tomato or a Trader Joe's. We need a more specialty type of store in that spot to have it survive. Another grocery store won't make it unless it's one of the big chains to compete with the ShopRites and Wegman's would suffer the same situation as Genuardi's. Lisella said he's gone after both of those stores but they won't even talk to him. Well, maybe someone else should contact them and convince them that Barnegat would be a great place to do business because out demographics are so diverse. They need to be more persistent. For years I've been asking the Township Committee why we don't pursue these stores - and the response to me was something like ".....we can't make them to come here." However, we can "sell" them on Barnegat. Our demographics would support one of these specialty stores-it would thrive-many of our residents travel miles to go to Trader Joe's way to the south or to the north. DO SOME LEGWORK.
Xavier
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
I'd shop at Trader Joe's even less than I shopped at Genuardis.
Marianne P. Clemente
10:49 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Also, for the benefit of Jane Doe above and the Capt.-we did vote out two Republicans, now have a Democratic majority and will have a different Mayor on January 1. Good luck to the new majority in town and a better way of doing business - only qualified people getting jobs and placed on committees, especially the Planning and Zoning Boards with no patronage jobs or positions. I know you'll do a great job.
Greg
10:49 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
One word! WEGMANS!!!!!!!!!!!
Susan
10:49 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
OK, you "knuckleheads" who lead our town. What do you plan on doing now?
John B Taxpayer
11:37 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Brahaaahaaaa! Planning? What Planning? A redlight system that hurry's you in time to catch the very next red light? A Rt 9 business enterprise zone? Low income housing on rt 9! A huge cleared sand lot on lighthouse? A vacant sand pit on Bay Ave.? The ruling design makers from the Senior area have no vision, no fresh ideas and now they have no supermarket. They'll petition a Barnegat free shuttle to Waretown to go grocery shopping, at taxpayer expense, now!
wookfish
11:00 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012
Johm B, who pays the most taxes and recieves the least services from the township?..the seniors
Rick
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
Wookfish, Who told you that the seniors pay the most taxes? What services other than schools don't they get?
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
WOOKFISH, THE SENIORS PAY TAXES ON ONE HOME ,,,,SAME AS THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, STOP PATTING YOURSELF ON THE BACK!
Sal Sorce
10:50 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Will miss the smaller WaWa for my morning coffee
and breakfast sandwich ... cannot justify going out to the
new WaWa ... crazy planning for many years ... too much
housing with not enough smart planning balance ...
interesting how housing gets through $$$$$$ hmmm???
It will be tough to get anything without giving away the
huge tax abatements Stafford has done for many years ...
look at the number of small businesses closed ...
water and sewer costs sky rocketing ... and more ahead
for area ... senior just sat and took it all for years ...
what a legacy ... high property taxes, huge infrastructure,
huge water and sewer reparations ahead ... whatever
happened to incremental or staged repairs ... MILLIONS
MUST NO BE SHARED BY THOSE WHO LIVE ALL AREAS
THAT WERE CAREFULLY BUILT ... OCEAN ACRES WITH
ALL THE FLOODING ... HOW DID THOSE HOMES GET
BUILT ??? BY THE BLOCK TEAM THAT'S HOW ...
27-YEARS OF CARL W. BLOCK AND HIS TEAM ...
SIT TIGHT THEY ARE BACK AS PREDICTED ...
BIG PROBLEMS IN $154 MILLION IN BONDING
DEBT ... source NJ County and State audit records
Xavier
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Sal, just like your other posts I was right there with you until you blasted off into space.
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
SAL, GIVE US A BREAK,,,,EITHER BARNEGAT OR MANAHAWKIN WHICH IS IT?
Rick
2:44 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012
Sal, do you think at some time you could put together a coherent sentence?
Howard Effron
11:37 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
Investors needed for exciting new fresh brewed coffee, sandwich, fresh soup and salad shop concept. Eat in and to go. Great location (where the old Wawa is leaving) w/ lots of traffic. 30 years in the business. Contact me.
Mike Howard
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Sounds like a good plan Howard. Hope you get it up and running.
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
I'LL BE YOUR FIRST CUSTOMER HOWARD!!
John B Taxpayer
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Howard good luck i think you would do well there or get a Panara franchise and take a chunk of the gendardi's location. l'd invest in that with you....
Joe Smith
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
What is going to take Wawa's place now. I knew that Genuardi's was closing but I didn't know that the smaller Wawa was. What is taking Genuardi's place instead?
Barnegat Resident
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
I knew that Genuardi's was closing but I had no idea that Wawa was closing. What stores will be taking over Genuardi's and Wawa ??
make a difference
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
everybody who is complaining that Genuardi's is closing and no supermarket. If you all shopped there it wouldn't be closing companies don't close stores that are making money. any way id giant food bought genuardi's you would still hate it. i had one in the poconos. Stop complaining. Shoprite is coming pay attention to whats going on in your neighborhood.
barbara
2:34 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Too many seniors who don't drive on Highway or leave town for that matter. Town Government better put some effort in getting something in here fast. Hate to call PeaPod for a potato.
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
I HEARD A CLP OF PEOPLE BLAMING OBAMA FOR CLOSING!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT,,,LOL
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
THE EMPTY BUILDING IS A BLITE ON THE TOWN ALSO!
Rick
2:44 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012
Seniors who won't drive on a highway?
They are all out there in the left lane of the Parkway.
Doing 40 MPH
Sal Sorce
3:46 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
At the rate things are going in the area, perhaps
the Ocean County can find a way to lease the site
for a County Seniors Services group, they need
to hire a few more employees to help the struggling
folks in so many areas ...
St. Mary's sold their site to the County ...
surely folks can save the trip to Ocean County Mall
or Stafford locations?
Barnegat Resident
3:46 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
I'm wondering if they will make the old Wawa a Quik Check. They're all over Ocean County now and they were all Wawa's at one time. Anybody know ??
Rick
4:43 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Gee thanks for the invite Sal.
But what does it have to do with Genuardi's closing in Barnegat?
Xavier
2:00 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012
That could be a smart move on their part as I don't think there are any nearby.
Sal Sorce
3:46 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Do not forget the coming Stafford Township
Council Meeting at 9AM December 27.
time for PUBLIC COMMENTS will be provided.
Money matters will be finalized and will host
the township's Chief Financial Officer Doug Gannon.
This will conclude the council meeting for 2012.
John B Taxpayer
12:52 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
WTF does Stafford have to do with this subject?
make a difference
10:25 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Does anybody understand the fact that when a store closes that nothing is going in there. nobody knows who will rent the space in the future. duh stop being ADHD about it. common sense.
Rick
4:25 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012
Do you even know what ADHD is?
Sal Sorce
10:25 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Hey Rick what are YOU on?
this is Barnegat- Manahawkin Patch ...
glad to be of service ...
I have often attended Planning Board
Meetings in Barnegat to speak against
what so many Barnegat residents
prefer to sit on the butts and take all
the development in their town ...
YOU should try it ... if you want to learn
about YOUR town start attending ALL
Planning, Zoning and Council Meetings.
Let your voice be heard.
Arrogance abounds in the tone and
voices of the developers because THEY
know they can get away with things due
to lack of the public voice ...
Hope the new team can get the courage
to appoint Scarinci and Holenbeck law firm
outside Ocean County connection.
Rick
4:25 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012
Okay Sal, I will repeat the question. What does the Safford Council meeting have to do with the closing of Genuardi's in Barnegat?
And how do you know that I don't already attend Barnegat meetings?
Ralph Mannarino
10:25 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Does anybody have a number to contact to find out what the asking price per sq ft they are trying to get for the space. A top tomato type of store is a great idea but would need to be less expensive then a top tomato. Can't just survive on holidays must be able to shop there weekly.
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
COMMITTEEMEN MARTY LISELLA,,, HE SAID HE WOULD FORGO HIS COMMISION FOR SOMEONE TO RENT IT!!!!!
Capt Jacobsen Mey
4:25 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012
If there is no incentive for a business to come to Barnegat, they're not going to come, plain and simple. Plus, not to mention, the Genardis location is an aged facility or retail outlet. To put it into simple terms, a potential buyer will need to rehab the interior to fit their needs - more so, because the building WAS previously occupied with a certain floor plan. That is an expense. In addition to the rehab, if the town is not offering any incentives on an aged building, wants top dollar for the building AND a high tax rate - no one is going to touch the place, period.
Most businesses WANT SOMETHING in return at the bargaining table in order for them placing their retail site in X town - in some instances, it will be for a tax break.
If I may ask, exactly what has Barnegat offered any potential buyer of the Genardis complex to lure them in?
It was ridiculous that Barnegat decided to break ground for more retail outlets AND homes, in a RECESSED ECONOMY, where folks are struggling with finances, people losing their jobs and the market for SELLING business or homes was (and in some instances still is) in the gutter. What makes anyone think they can lure a business into an OLD structure when the dang town can't even sell or lease the broken ground with NO buildings in place yet?
Where is the so called business sense of ANYONE in this town?
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE IN BARNEGAT FOR THE WALTERS GROUP ("THE LANDLORD") THEY COLLECT THE RENT FROM GENUARDIS FOR THE NEXT 7 YEARS , CAPT?
Rick
9:28 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012
Capt. You call a 20 year old building an old structure?
The town isn't trying to sell Genuardi's. They don't own the building.
And Genuardi's, like the old WaWa, don't pay property taxes. The building owner pays the taxes, whether the building is occupied or not.
Sal Sorce
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR MANAHAWKIN-STAFFORD RESIDENTS
DECEMBER 27 AT 9 AM THERE WILL BE A COUNCIL MEETING
TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND FINALIZE SOME SOME MONEY
MATTERS WITH THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER DOUG GANNON
AND OTHER ORDINANCES BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
NO MENTION IF MR GANNON WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
REPEAT THURSDAY DECEMBER 27, 9 AM STAFFORD COUNCIL
MEETING OPEN TO ALL AREA RESIDENTS ...
YOU TOO RICK ...
Rick
9:27 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012
It must be something they want everybody to attend. That's why they're holding in in the morning on a weekday. Don't most of the residents of Stafford have to go to work that day?
I would go but I would be taking up a seat that a township resident could use.
Sal Sorce
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
Notice: Should anyone wish to lease the vacant Genuardi's
you can surely contact the township clerk and or the Walters Group.
I was told they had built the entire complex, it's possible they
still own the strip mall.
Rick
9:27 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012
Gee Sal, I didn't know the township clerk was also the rental agent for the Walter's Group or any other landlord.
Larry Cataldo
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
THE REAL GREED HERE IS THE WALTERS GROUP, WHO WILL COLLECT RENT FROM GENUARDIS FOR THE NEXT 7 YRS, WHY WOULD WANT TO LOOK TO GET A NEW TENENT, THEY CLAIM THEY CAN'T FIND ANYONE INTERESTED? GIVE ME A BREAK? WHAT DO THEY CARE ABOUT BARNEGAT QUALITY OF LIFE ? THERE ONLY HERE FOR THE MONEY!!!!
John B Taxpayer
8:31 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
There is no Business Planning! We tore down a nature area for a sandlot that sits vacant in a terrible economy. We have 6 red lights from the parkway to Barnegat Blvd that turns Red upon ALL 6 approaches and eliminated All Right on REDs. The county only has control on the county roads The State only has control on the Parkway light and ALL agencies would and can change this upon the request of o Town and/or Police. Complain all you want MANY residents will avoid this nightmare regardless who or what occupies this area! Most state with dual turning right hand lanes allow The INSDE lane to turn on red, so if you think we can't drive with good judgment we did before this debacle. As for the New WAWA. I protest it I will not use it unless I'm coming off the parkway. Besides folks, our Wawa's (Manahawkin and Barnegat) are ripping us off on the gas prices! Lacy is 6 cents cheaper; TR is 15 cents cheaper! $.3.31 currently WAWA Old Bridge $3.07 F Wawa! Support another station and whoever moves into their old location. STOP complaining let your wallet do the speaking......
Rick
9:43 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
It seems you would be happier if you lived in Lacey, Toms River or Old Bridge.
Rick
6:14 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
John B, you really have a problem with no turn on red intersections.
Where in Barnegat do you know of DUAL right turn lanes? Where do you see a no turn on red intersection that shouldn't be?
Rick
9:43 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
In case you haven't noticed, every traffic light in town is on either a county or state road except the light on Lighthouse to turn into WaWa.
John B Taxpayer
9:11 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
And the town has a lot of influence in what the county/state does as far as redlight timing! Rick you're the sucker that buys into this BS. or you're some how connected to this stupidity! I'm just saying IF there's enough voices that say something about this things will change. I wouldn't open ANY business in this town, as things are currently. Suggesting I move tells me it's either one or you're simply a moron. You need to be in the meadow with the rest of the sheep....
Rick
6:14 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Do you know how long it took to get a left turn lane and left arrow at Barnegat Blvd & Rt 9?
It was in fact several years.
Rick
6:14 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
In case you didn’t see the results of the recent elections, the local incumbents lost by a large margin in the last election. Apparently enough people did want something to change.
Let’s get them some time and see what happens.
.
Rick
10:46 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
I didn't suggest that you move, I merely noted that you seem to think so many other towns in the area have much better conditions and that you might be happier if you lived in one of them.
After all, it is the Christmas season and I believe everyone should be happy at this time of year.
Rick
10:46 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
Merry Christmas John B
Dave Sleeper
10:41 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
I can see how this conversationis closly related to the closing of Genuardi's.
S C
7:33 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
We could use a really good bakery in this town as there aren't any good bakeries close by. We had to drive to LBI to go to a good bakery. They closed up for the winter and now there is no option. Don't even get me started on the rt 9 bakery. We have to send word to friends and relatives to bring down bread when they come from up north jersey and then freeze the extra. Not even shop rite has good bread.
Genuardis was high priced. But at least we had a super market. We should try for a trader joes to go in there.