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Back Bays See No Relief

Back Bays Left to Fend for Themselves

From Cape May to the Raritan Bay to the Hudson Basin, flooding remains today, for the fourth straight day.

New Jersey's back bays and marshes remain a destructive mess. There are no cleanup efforts underway; the coastlines are still littered with debris and new debris that has come up from the bays and the ocean. 

There was another breach of the ocean meeting the bay at the Bay Head/Mantoloking border, closing Route 35. Further flooding to homes and businesses along the coastlines and Barrier islands have happened.

Where are the cleanup crews, where is FEMA on the ground, helping the newly effected and, better yet, how long will this round of insurance money take? The numbers are staggering. Homeowners have been beaten down on payouts.

Who has the money to repair what's already been repaired? And what hasn't? When will the state wake up and let locals clean there areas at a fair day's pay?

I know I've cleaned about four miles myself with no pay - no offers of pay have been turned down, left and right, from the big fundraising groups. I guess cleaning the bay isn't as popular as walking the beaches, picking up driftwood and colored glass.

When will the back bays get their due? This huge push is to fix the Seaside Heights boardwalk - and, if you notice, most pictures leave out that the place itself is an H-bomb disaster area.

Where are the protection plans for the mainland, the other side, the working side of the Jersey shore? That's the side that's being made to pay for the rich second homes on the barrier islands. They do this off the backs of hard-working Joes so some lonely person can sell seashells at the sea shore. 

The month of February saw no progress - it was like everyone went on vacation. We are no closer to answering how our governor or president is going to stop the senseless insurance bill they have let drop on us, with no vote, involving just a stroke of a pen. 

When was the last time the president visited the area? He hes been here once. And that for a photo-opp only. He hasn't delivered on one promise. Our own governor talked a good game but, guess what? Behind even Jackie Gleason's beloved persona was a very troubled man. 

I saw a report that there are some 675 families still in hotels. This number is way off. I can tell you just by the amount homes that are left empty here. 

There are no county crews out, no town crews, no state crews cleaning anything. My road is flooded still, and when the tide does go down, much of what was supposed to be there wiil be 75 percent gone.

There are bulkheads, there are docks  there are roofs, propane tanks all now covering the same marsh. I had to organize a volunteer clean up effort, saving the town, the landowners and the state hundreds of thousands of dollars. 

The barge that almost hit the Manahawkin bridge still lays in wreckage in the bay, just feet from the bridge and bulkheading. Boats still litter the marshes, and yet, not even temporary measures are being taken to protect the mainlands.

Where are the answers? Where are house raisers? Where are the bridge gap grants, the mitigation money? Where are they going?

Not here, my friends. Not here. 

This nor'easter is being ignored, like it didn't happen at all here. There should have been some disaster clarification by our governor. This area got hit again just as hard as Sandy, just not as far inland. But I assure you every marina and waterfront home on the bay side did. 

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proud March 11, 2013 at 06:55 pm
That's incorrect JMS, plenty is happening with flood insurance (it's going UP!). However, the preliminary maps (due out in Ocean County in August) will give insight as to how much they may go up.
JMS March 11, 2013 at 06:58 pm
exactly what I said "nothing is changing until August" nothing now is happening with Flood; trust me I would know; we are not even sure that the August date will hold true at this point; they are still adjusting claims.. as far as maps go; New Orleans still to this day does not have FIRM maps; and it's been seven years...
p.s. all of the maps are due out for each county in August.
proud March 11, 2013 at 07:21 pm
JMS, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but your insurance has already gone up. Wait and see when you get your renewal. If you are pre firm or post firm grandfathered "subsidies" will phase out over five or four years respectively. You can find when preliminary maps are scheduled for release that varies by county by following here:
Flood Map Update Schedule | Flood Risks | Flood Insurance ... www.floodsmart.gov/floodsmart/pages/.../map_update_schedule.jsp New land development can increase flood risk. ... Enter your Zip Code to see all of the communities in your county that have maps scheduled to be updated. That's if the public outcry by voters can pressure Congress into amending the economy dwstroyer known as the Biggert-Waters Act 2012. www.stopfemanow.com
Terry Adams March 11, 2013 at 07:23 pm
We all know that all of this is just insane! And so many of us have our lives turned upside down and it's never gonna be the same. So may God be with us all.
John Eric Mangino March 11, 2013 at 07:24 pm
Thats the point people are waiting to raise or not raise being asked to sign off there rights and commit to heights and ratable areas that are not set . How can people be expected to live there lives like this . I was up on beach haven beach last night half the sand is gone thats been bermed up . The town flooded again many stores flooded again several clouded windows tell of building have seen no work 7- 11 Bank of America .
I heard a very disturbing thing That Tuckers Restaurant will not be reopening Buckaloo's was open for dinner , Bagel shack for breakfast but wow a ghost town to say the least . there is a business district fundraiser coming up march 23rd . ill be posting the event very soon .
Depmar March 11, 2013 at 08:33 pm
I am an owner of a 2nd home in Brick. It is on a lagoon on the inland side of the bay and was flooded with 3 feet of water from Sandy. When we purchased the home we made a financial decision not to buy flood insurance...it was pricey and we decided to roll the dice and take our chances. Who ever imagined that this would happen? Too bad for us. We are not crying...we consider ourselves fortunate that this is not our primary house. We don't want government $$. It was our choice to forgo the insurance, so now we pay the piper. I feel for the homeowners who are in limbo over rebuilding, and especially for the elderly who now have to face the prospect of raising their retirement homes and having to climb a flight of stairs to get into their houses. So many houses are still vacant on our street...it is sad. I also question the fairness of calculating the percentage of flood damage to a home by using the township assessment instead of market value.
Depmar March 11, 2013 at 08:42 pm
Oprah doesn't live there. That was only a rumor that was going around when the house was built.
Missing Brick March 12, 2013 at 12:27 am
I got my renewal and my insurance did not go up yet.
Then again, I have not received a single dime for my six figure claim either. I believe they need to increase at no more than 25% a year...however, that can sure get expensive fast. After this experience with the claim department, I will not be carrying flood insurance if they require me to raise my home. I will simply raise my sunken living room, which will put me 1 foot over Sandy level and hope for the best. In my neighborhood, all but 4 homes (out of 200) would be required to be raised...however less than half of those even got water out of Sandy. It's time to take some of that money we send abroad and take care of our own citizens first. Some FEMA now indeed!
proud March 12, 2013 at 02:54 am
YET!
Donna Griffin March 12, 2013 at 04:31 am
Chris - I agree with you to a certain extent. However, if you have private flood insurance, have paid the premiums and the money has not made its way into the homeowners' hands....there is a legitimate reason for those property owners to gripe. We know the risks living down here just as residents in CA know the risks of living along fault lines. We also, however, accommodate the crowds in the summer on the beaches maintained by our waterfront towns. Those are the same people who now want to tap dance on the grave of Ocean County. It seems like there is a good number of bitter, angry, jealous folks who would rather see the beachfront shut down than have anyone live near it.
John Eric Mangino March 12, 2013 at 04:58 am
So im delusional that entire area of population are being held hostage because these beach front home owners held up beach replenish ment and dune projects ?
Ask the town of Love ladies what happened to them .Paying out to a homeowner that sued because his view was Blocked .. Why cant we now sue these homeowners that didn't sign the easements I am not jealous of any ocean front owner at all I own my home on the Bay and its ten times better to live on the bay than ocean . If you gave me a beachfront won't take it .You can always go to beach but to wake up on the water with your boat behind your house priceless , With a Adventure at your dock side . Swan visit Blue heron white egrets , we have wild fox , pleasant, Im addressing only those that didn't sign the easements I have nothing against rich. poor or middle class , We are all in the same boat and if you paid insurance I dont care if its your third home your due your Claims ... But to saddle the Mainland with the insurance bill is what is the case here ..
John Eric Mangino March 12, 2013 at 05:11 am
@nic Get me the game wardens name . We contacted the Governors office when we first heard rumblings just like this . Like I said lot interests as far as outside contractors see theses areas as a Gold mine , like Sea Tow and others they want the contrats to clean them .. Any of these resources and debris we can save for own towns like all the medal is money in the bank . For our towns . But as far as Quads I can see there point there, but a planned in and out route using the same oath I dont see why not . Lot these area span miles into the Wetlands If it can get done by volunteers by all means the more we can save on tipping fees the less they get . Good for you .
Skitch March 12, 2013 at 05:15 am
@Stuart. If it were not for the so called 2nd home owners your taxes would be a hell of a bit higher than they are currently. My house is a secondary residence. I pay a hefty $$$ to Staford Township and ask for nothing in return other than trash pick up for a few weeks out of the summer. I am educating your children, paying for your township projects etc. I do not reap the benefits from my tax dollars. Yet i pay the same tax dollars that you do. Secondly, even though I own the 2nd home, I live conservatively in 2 small homes the size of the average 1 person's primary home. As a 2nd home owner I had the foresight to protect my assets. I had insurance. Stop acting like your entitled. You have no one to blame but yourself. you live on the water or near the water you need flood insurance. End of story. If you didn't have insurance then you assume the risk. As a side note. Flood insurance has been a joke. I would probably have been better off had i not had any insurance. It seems those who had no insurance are eligible for all kinds of benefits while those of us with insurance (who have still not been paid) are eligible for nothing. Not even low interest loans. Even with insurance since this was not my primary home I am only entitle to collect actual cash value for my damage, while primary home owners collect replacement cost. Yet we pay the same premium for the same coverage. Many of us are also getting shafted. So get off your woe is me high horse.
John Eric Mangino March 12, 2013 at 05:22 am
From the Dep website ..
http://www.nj.gov/dep/landuse/emergencyr.html We called for clarification on this weeks ago and were told anyone tries to stop you tells you need a permit please get there name and agencies supervisors name . The Office Of Chris Christie
jerseyswamps March 12, 2013 at 10:31 am
That's the best explanation I've seen for what's happening with our Sandy and post Sandy flooding.
John Eric Mangino March 12, 2013 at 02:15 pm
While I hate to break the news to you ,Firms are charging more that what the tipping fees are at the dump . Also what I am happy to report is cleaning has begun South of the bridge. The article you have mentioned is good the only problem with it is it does not take into effect the Bay has a problem losing all this extra water ,
Also the easements as well when the oceans is allowed to Breach to the bay this adds to this as well . All of Ortley beach is like this . I believe its all connected . Years of runoff from tributaries non dredging years that have built up . I dont want to see a shore to shore dredging of the bay just the area that have gone for years un guarded and un managed . And the intercoastal water way .
Martin March 12, 2013 at 02:42 pm
Erroneous flood zone maps, overkill house-raising mandates and exorbitant annual insurance costs... FEMA wants NJ to bail it out of its Katrina debt!
Join our fight. Congress must correct the 2012 Biggert-Waters Act that gave FEMA the power to drown homeowners and NJ's entire economy. Info is at StopFemaNow.com and Facebook.com/StopFemaNow. Save our Shore Communities!
Seashepherd March 12, 2013 at 04:47 pm
I find there is a snake in the grass at the Jersey Shore which is applying such intense pressure on our great towns that there isn't a resident of our town's who isn't in some way being affected by it's marrow producing squeeze.
This reptile is a master of disguise whose presence is always felt but well camouflaged .The citizen's of our town's are faced with a huge problem, coming to grips with and solving the damage, deluge and suffering caused by Sandi. I will in no way condem anyones's comments we are American's and allowed to say our mind. I will as a matter of record offer some construtive criticism.to all, your efforts, and comments are all appreciated. I do recognize, as we all should, that this reptile in disguise is us, the citizens of the shore, local residence or second home owners that were all devistated by Sandi. How proud we must be to have the JERSEY SHORE in such disarray, that we sit here and point fingers, chastiise each other and argue, when we should all be coming together as one and fight for what we built and refuse to have any agency, local government or state government jeopardize a way of life we all love. . We all have much at risk, let's get rid of this snake, the in-fighting, the me me attitudes and work together as one. Let's get our communication lines in order by filling them with constructive idea and solutions to a mega problem we all have.Get rid of the Snake Let's stand together and win our shore back.
John Eric Mangino March 12, 2013 at 04:56 pm
Agree +10^
Seashepherd March 12, 2013 at 05:03 pm
Thanks John, that is just the way I feel
Doris Bader Sekora March 12, 2013 at 05:07 pm
Beautifully said, its my first time reading comments and I am alarmed by the sniping - what a waste of time! Come together and fight this! I joined stopFemanow and urge you all to do the same! See facebook or their website..........
Martin March 12, 2013 at 05:38 pm
Get info, get answers, get involved at Facebook.com/StopFemaNow
Save our homes, save our communities, save the Shore.
John Eric Mangino March 12, 2013 at 07:15 pm
Ok I was in contact with george when he started the Movement an I include it in Many of my posts Im trying to perhaps get a meeting in the Stafford area. But for every comment Im making somewhere it seems im getting A stop fema now tagged with it . So what I suggest is just sign your comments as such . @stopfemanow.com
thank you .
Mark Story Jenks March 13, 2013 at 06:34 am
I recently heard that debris in the marshes will be picked up by boat, but only if it is left AT the waters edge. This is happening this week in the upper Bay area. So anyone who might be volunteering needs to go by that rule, so the open boats can load the debris expeditiously. Unless of course, a dumpster is a shorter hike.
bayboat March 13, 2013 at 11:32 am
"Back bays see no relief"...isn't that a line from a Bruce song ? :)
Samantha March 13, 2013 at 07:07 pm
Gary I agree with you. My family and home are more important then some fat cats oceanview.
Hank, I also agree with you. We make choices in life, good or bad. And we all choose to live on the water. Who knew this would happen? I don't believe for one minute sandy was the storm of the century. I believe there will more violent storms and hurricanes. We will not live thru that nightmare again. Once was enough for us.
Samantha March 13, 2013 at 07:50 pm
WHAT
Walking Dead March 14, 2013 at 03:15 pm
Well said George
Walking Dead March 14, 2013 at 03:33 pm
Well said Samantha. I'm amazed at the comments that are posted here. I didn't realize the grammer police was out. What is wrong with you people ? Instead of degrading one's spelling, comma's and typo's, we should unite and help each other. Isn't that point here? I read the patch seeking knowledge and many of you have answered my questions. I'm dyslexic; we write things backwards. Thanks for the awesome article John ! !
George Kasimos March 20, 2013 at 04:07 pm
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